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MDABE80
04-03-2007, 10:54 AM
not worth much but the zags are in this.....already! Yes there IS hope!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2007/2007/04/goodbye-to-gators-and-top-10-for-2007.html?cnn=yes

CDC84
04-03-2007, 11:08 AM
The problem with these lists is that while they are fun to look at, they really shouldn't be assembled until after the NBA draft deadline has passed. We literally don't have any idea who might be coming back and who might be staying. You can try to guess, but a kid who you assume should be coming back may not do so if he shows brilliantly at the NBA camps......

lothar98zag
04-03-2007, 11:08 AM
Lumped in w/ a bunch of teams in the 11-30 range. I'm not surprised and I think that's what we'll be seeing all the way up until games are actually played.

MDABE80
04-03-2007, 11:24 AM
Well, these are fun and do generate some hope. Keeps the buzz going too I suppose. Not much else. We need some offseason hope and fun considering this past season....at least I think so. One thing about the thoughts of the NBS draft though, look at it in the reverse. The Zags won't get worse because of the draft while others on this list might get worse because of defections. A lil bit of Pollyanaish spin to begin the new season....er offseason depending on how one looks at it.

sanfranzagsguy20
04-03-2007, 11:32 AM
as of right now i see most prognosticators slotting the zags in the 26-35 range...just outside the top 25...remember most of these guys dont see what we see...imo gonzaga should be a lock for the top 25 at some point next season but i dont know if i see them in the preseason top 25...not after a down year and not after going out in the first round

CDC84
04-03-2007, 11:34 AM
I would be surprised if Gonzaga isn't in the top 25 at ESPN or TSN. It will depend on the source.

Zags4life
04-03-2007, 12:03 PM
I think these rankings are based on three things, in order of importance:

1. previous tourney performance
2. returning starters
3. incoming class

For some reason a team's previous regular-season performance never seems to matter as much (except maybe for last year's Kansas squad). With those factors in mind, I'd expect (and be pleased with) GU coming in around 22-25 in the initial polls. High enough to make the Sportscenter highlights, but definitely under the radar considering the upside of a complete and healthy squad next year.

thickman1
04-03-2007, 12:21 PM
WSU is 7th!

23dpg
04-04-2007, 07:36 AM
http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10106770

6 Pac Ten teams plus a little Jesuit school from Washington.

tyra
04-04-2007, 07:58 AM
Here is a Bud Withers' article from the Seattle Times about next year's rankings and the PAC 10. Interesting read. Gonzaga is left out of their "composite" listing.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/budwithers/2003650248_withers04.html

CDC84
04-04-2007, 09:20 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2825071

Zags at #15

sonuvazag
04-04-2007, 09:44 AM
Basketball rules in Eastern Washington. -- Andy Katz

ZaggyStardust
04-04-2007, 09:51 AM
I thought this was pretty interesting - especially the jump we took even after a bad year (which is explained in the narrative).... We may not be "elite" but we certainly are in the top!

http://blog.coltonindex.com/

RebornZag
04-04-2007, 10:16 AM
Great find "Stardust." We improved 8 places which is the right way to be going. I'm sure it has a lot to do with our 11th best recruiting class for 07-08. I see a cluster of 3 teams: Memphis, Gonzaga and Florida who are all moving together toward the top. Memphis makes the biggest leap (something like 14 spots toward the top) then Gonzaga with 8 and finally Florida who jumped 6 places. I only note this because these are my favorite teams in the country. They all play a similar style (which I really like) and their coaches are 3 of the best in the country. All 3 could be gone next year, but I doubt it. Memphis is ranked 4th in the earliest pre-season polls, GU and Florida in the top 25.

John Calipari, imo, would be the most likely to be named the next head coach at Kentucky, but 4 mill. could even entice Billy Donovan.

MDABE80
04-04-2007, 01:00 PM
Another preseason poll from RIVALS. They like UW. I don't agree with a lot in this poll. FWIW..I doubt the accuracy of many things.


http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=660053

CDC84
04-04-2007, 01:21 PM
The overriding theme here is that the Zags are going to be severely underestimated going into next season by most sources...largely because they do not have a marquee player returning that scores 20 PPG. For some reason, this has become the measure of what a good Gonzaga team consists of for many of these pundits. A lot of these people don't realize that we are entering a new era of Gonzaga hoops that will feature teams with more depth and balance. GU might not have that one household name, but the quality of all their players combined creates a team that has a lot more talent than some of these people think.

Trust me folks, there are a lot of teams that are ranked ahead of Gonzaga in these preseason polls who simply do not have the players that the Zags will have at their arsenal next season.