Zags Return to AP Top 25

[Angelo Roncalli]

Where isn't exactly clear. Looks like 24 to me?

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/37828079.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

[BobZag]

St. Mary's is ranked higher in Coaches poll.

22 >> 24

Looks like the Zags are not highly regarded anymore. Gaels are rolling. Zags are stagnating.

[former1dog]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings

23rd?

[Rubbadub]

Nvmd, Former beat me to it.

Once again, it looks like AP is more on top of things than the ESPN/Coaches Poll.

[Angelo Roncalli]

1. Wake Forest (68) 16-0 1,793
2. Duke (4) 16-1 1,721
3. Connecticut 16-1 1,590
4. Pittsburgh 16-1 1,569
5. North Carolina 16-2 1,510
6. Oklahoma 17-1 1,498
7. Michigan State 15-2 1,394
8. Syracuse 17-2 1,146
9. Louisville 13-3 1,090
10. Clemson 16-1 1,043
11. Marquette 16-2 1,003
12. Georgetown 12-4 979
13. UCLA 14-3 897
14. Texas 13-4 858
15. Xavier 15-2 848
16. Butler 16-1 726
17. Arizona State 15-3 671
18. Purdue 14-4 553
19. Notre Dame 12-5 469
20. Villanova 14-3 353
21. Minnesota 16-2 298
22. Memphis 14-3 208
23. Gonzaga 12-4 201
24. Florida 16-2 175
25. Illinois 15-3 159
Others Receiving Votes
Baylor 148, Saint Mary's 137, Kentucky 105, California 82, Florida State 34, Kansas 23, Ohio State 20, Missouri 14, Davidson 14, Tennessee 14, Utah State 12, Washington 12, West Virginia 8, Miami (FL) 8, Arkansas 6, Michigan 5, Dayton 4, George Mason 1, LSU 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Baylor 21, California 22, Tennessee 24, Michigan 25.

[former1dog]

The only quarrel I have with the AP is that I think we should be ranked above Notre Dame and that St. Mary's should be ranked as well, possibly ahead of us. Not saying that St. Mary's is a better team than us, but based on the body of work, they should get the nod.

[Rubbadub]

I'm trying to figure out what Memphis has done to be ranked ahead of us. Granted all their losses are understandable, they haven't beaten ANYBODY. Same goes for Villanova and Saint Mary's.

While I personally would put GU ahead of Notre Dame, I can see why voters MIGHT put them ahead of us.

[former1dog]

I'm trying to figure out what Memphis has done to be ranked ahead of us. Granted all their losses are understandable, they haven't beaten ANYBODY.

Reputation? (final four team from last season)

[sullyzag66]

St. Mary's is ranked higher in Coaches poll.

22 >> 24

Looks like the Zags are not highly regarded anymore. Gaels are rolling. Zags are stagnating.

The higher St. Mary's is ranked when Zags beat them, the better.

[JAGzag]

Not saying that St. Mary's is a better team than us, but based on the body of work, they should get the nod.

Not trying to take away from the Gaels, but let's face it, they haven't played or beat anyone all that good. I hear the complaints from their fans that they couldn't get anyone to come to that shoe box they call a gym?! Then do what the Zags did and play anyone, anywhere - I just don't see teams willing to do that anymore.

[whatazag]

The only downside is being ranked in the AP does us no good for getting our highlights on espn.

[DZ]

Espn

The St. Mary's game is on ESPN, I for one am not worried about GU being ranked right now, some strange "force" will put us in the top 25 for a game of two ranked teams on ESPN.

[a13coach]

Not trying to take away from the Gaels, but let's face it, they haven't played or beat anyone all that good. I hear the complaints from their fans that they couldn't get anyone to come to that shoe box they call a gym?! Then do what the Zags did and play anyone, anywhere - I just don't see teams willing to do that anymore.

It was not so long ago (2003-2004) that we still played in the Martin Centre so I would not be harshing on their gym size. But I agree, they and the rest of the WCC needs that anyone anywhere mentality.

[WallaWallaZag]

It was not so long ago (2003-2004) that we still played in the Martin Centre so I would not be harshing on their gym size. But I agree, they and the rest of the WCC needs that anyone anywhere mentality.

i would argue that billy g and san diego did exactly that this year and they have paid the price as well...didn't help with brandon johnson getting hurt though...

@unlv(54), nevada(109 - not as good as in the past few years, but not bad and babbitt is a stud), wisconsin(17 - big10), miami(32 - acc), @sdsu(59), new mexico(93), @oregon (118 - not that good this year, but still a pac10 team), boise st.(55), @mississippi st.(92 - sec)

number in () is the current rpi ranking...that's a pretty damn good schedule, comparable to ours.

[montanazag88]

Back of my mind: Zags ranked "fairly"...even though not ranked "accurately," which is a sweet thing to enjoy. IMO, our team plays as emotionall as much as strategic and emotions tied to "improving" one's position is an advantage over "keeping" the same.

At the end of the day, the weekly polls really are a best attempt being "fair." Seed selections for the dance are an attempt to be "accurate" and yet have not been completely favorable to ALL #1-4 seeds.....AND even that doesn't really matter.

My guess, Zags will be in the top 18 by season's end (beating Memphis and taking it to St Mary's). If not, who really cares if they are playing like the #1-4 that I truly believe is within their grasp. The path: Selflessness evident in Defense, Rebounding, Defense, Rebounding, Defense......