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ZagNative
07-16-2008, 06:35 AM
Yesterday's game story (http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread4_us.asp?r=KCCGYGMOTZ&t=FPVIWCZCXY) from the FIBa Americas website:
FORMOSA (FIBA Americas U18 Championship) - Canada is still undefeated in the FIBA Americas U18 Championship after beating Uruguay 76-56 in day two of the tournament. The Canadians qualified for the FIBA U19 World Championship and will look for first place in the group tomorrow against Argentina.

Uruguay won the first quarter 20-16 but their offense fell and at halftime Canada had a 41-28 advantage.

Robert Anthony Gagliardi led at halftime with 19 points. Gagliardi scored 11 points in a row to give them back the lead. Canada shot 14-32 from the field with six three pointers and 7-12 from the free throw line. They also dominated the boards 22-17.

The Uruguayans shot 9-33 from the field with three baskets from long range and 7-10 from the free throw line. Their best scorer was Matias Calfani with 10 points.

At the end of the third quarter Canada had a 62-42 lead and never looked back.

In the win Robert Gagliardi netted 33 points while Mangisto Arop scored 14 points and grabbed 12 rebounds.The Canadians game today will be at 21:00, which I translate to17:00 hours, or 5:00 PM Spokane (PDT) time. (http://www.fibaamericas.com/torneos_cal_us.asp?t=FPVIWCZCXY)

So far, Manny is #5 in scoring, with 15.5 ppg, and #2 in rebounding, with 12 per game average. (http://www.fibaamericas.com/torneos_lideres_us.asp?t=FPVIWCZCXY)

Manny gets some love from the Toronto Star (http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/olympic_basketball/index.html):

Down in Argentina, the under-18 team is trying to qualify for next year’s world championships and there are a couple of kids you should keep your eye on.

Tristan Thompson had 19 points and 14 rebounds and Mangisto Arop had 17 and 12 on Monday when Canada beat Mexico 78-65 in its first game.

Had a chance to see Canada against some college kids in an exhibition game before the Canada-Lebanon tilt a couple of weeks ago at Ricoh and came away impressed with those two.

Canada gets Uruguay today and Argentina tomorrow. Four of the eight teams in the tournament qualify for the worlds next summer in New Zealand.

And besides the kids getting key international experience, head coach Greg Francis is building a resume that I imagine will some day land him the same gig with the senior national team.

Have been hearing for a couple of years how good a coach he is and watching him work his team that night at Ricoh, I saw why.

Just seems to have a calmness and a presence.

BobZag
07-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Canada will have to play its best game, near flawless, today. Argentina is wiping out teams. Canada knows this. It'll be interesting to see how Mangisto and his team fare.

Good luck, Mangisto!

ZagNative
07-16-2008, 05:30 PM
Game up momentarily (http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/00/07/02/30wMe2vJb79VQ/)? Clock still at 00:00

MississppiZag
07-16-2008, 05:37 PM
Should be up within 10 minutes, the USA game took longer than usual.

ZagNative
07-16-2008, 05:48 PM
What the ???? Manny and Tristan Tompson haven't entered the game with 3:38 left in the first, Artentina 9, CA 2, Canada with 5 fouls already?

Edit: Manny and Tristan just subbed in.

BobZag
07-16-2008, 06:12 PM
Missing putbacks, it appears. Things aren't going well for Canada. Good to see Mangisto feeding it inside, though. This will be tough. Argentina has everything going its way.

ZagNative
07-16-2008, 06:20 PM
Yesterday's hereo, Gagliardi, 1/10. Sheesh. Quit putting it up already.

pbriz
07-16-2008, 06:22 PM
down by 8 at half, manny with 10.

Not too horrible being down by 8 with how bad they seem to be playing.

BobZag
07-16-2008, 06:22 PM
I'm for Mangisto, but what's up with Tristan Thompson? One for one from the field? He's an elite Top-10 recruit to Texas. Maybe he and Mangisto entered late due to food poisoning or illness. ? Or Nurse, the PG, needs to feed him down low more.

10 pts at half for Arop.

8 pt deficit.

ZagNative
07-16-2008, 06:31 PM
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Screenprints/Stats/2008-07-16MannyAropCanadavArgentina.jpg

Yeah, I hope the guys aren't sick. Can't understand Manny and Thompson not starting ...

MississppiZag
07-16-2008, 06:46 PM
What the hell is Gagliardi doing?:confused:

At least Manny is playing well, Trasolini too.

ZagNative
07-16-2008, 07:06 PM
Tristan Thompson, 1/6, for four points, and now an unsportsmanlike penalty? We definitely got the deal on that one with Manny at 14 pts 5/11.

Edited to add: Now Gagliardi, with an unsportsmanlike. I have a feeling we're going to be hearing about some very bad reffing, but still....

MississppiZag
07-16-2008, 07:23 PM
Manny again leads the team in points and rebounds. He had 17 pts and 7 rebounds. He continues to show why he will be a great player at GU. Can't wait.

Gagliardi nearly played the entire game. He must be the coaches son.

thespywhozaggedme
07-16-2008, 07:25 PM
Manny led both teams in points and rebounds w/17 and 7 in Canada's 10 point loss.

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/00/07/02/30wMe2vJb79VQ/

MississppiZag
07-16-2008, 07:30 PM
Take it for what it is worth, but Manny is averaging 16 points and 10.3 rebounds. Those averages are better than any other player on Team USA. Just sayin.:D

We will see, if Canada plays USA. When do we find out the games for tomorrow?

Nevtelen
07-16-2008, 09:28 PM
In terms of points and assists/TOs, Manny is about where I sort of expected so far. His rebounding is a huge surprise, though, and it's got me pumped. Even with his wingspan, that many boards consistently from the wing tells me he just has a nose for the ball. That's something the Zags mostly lacked last season and a great bonus for a guard/wing. Hopefully that holds up against taller, more athletic and older compeitition.

hondo46
07-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Much of rebounding is about wanting the ball. I like that about Manny.

duper
07-17-2008, 09:48 AM
I don't want to do the leg work. Anybody know how many of these kids are d-1 recruits.

ZagNative
07-17-2008, 09:58 AM
I don't want to do the leg work. Anybody know how many of these kids are d-1 recruits.spywhozaggedme would likely know, or OzZag. I think BobZag mentioned Texas for Thompson. However, it's hard to find out much because Scout and Rivals (but especially Scout) don't seem to cover the Canadian kids much. Scout, for example, doesn't list Manny at all, long after he verbaled - at least so far as I've been able to determine, and I don't see Thompson mentioned either place either.

I'm curious to see what kind of coverage they give to the USA Canada game and what contortions they'll go through to avoid any research about the Canadian kids. I like Greg Hicks at Scout, but ...

GUZag08
07-17-2008, 10:37 AM
Tristan Thompson is the number one ranked PF for the class of 2010 on Scout and the number one ranked SF for 2010 on Rivals

ZagNative
07-17-2008, 10:48 AM
ZN =

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Junk/goat_animated.gif

I forgot he was a 2010 guy.

sonuvazag
07-17-2008, 10:51 AM
Tristan Thompson is the number one ranked PF for the class of 2010 on Scout and the number one ranked SF for 2010 on Rivals
With talent like that, how cool is it that Manny leads the squad in boards? Very cool.